Thread:Algorithmz/@comment-188432-20170322214913

Hey :)

Another little thing for you. I've now seen the responses you've given to both Bleubird and Luchofigo85 about your blocks. And I've got to say that I'm a little troubled. See, blocks that are handed out at Fandom-run wikis are amongst the most inarguable there are. It's very rare that anyone who's trying to make contributions to meta wikis like these will get blocked in the first place. So you should assume that blocks at a CC have been done in good faith and are correct.

When you said, as you did to Bleubird that there was a "lack of organization" at pt.community, you're actually -- and I'm sure unintentionally -- insulting her work. She has a particular workflow, and it works for her. She wants to see the list of "Novos pedidos" -- even when they're no longer novos anymore. That's not how they do it elsewhere, but big deal. She still is able to handle the work of processing adoption requests, so it works by the only definition that matters. Now, I do think that a lot of that post hit the right tone. But, just like it's important not to leave a revision note that calls someone else's use of their native tongue "a mistake", it's important not to tell the very person who's running a wiki that their wiki is unorganised. Particularly when she is getting the job of that wiki done, and done well.

Another tiny thing: it's probably best when you're apologising that you don't mention that one of the reasons you're apologising is so that your goal of joining the IVT isn't thrown off course. You would be well-advised -- and so I am advising you -- to just chill about the IVT. If you do good work, the chances are much higher that it'll just come to you. You don't need to keep bangin' that drum. Believe me, everybody knows you wanna be in IVT. And the best way to make it happen is to do some course correction now.

Here's another example of the course correction I'm talking about. I have to say I'm pretty stunned that you sent in a Special:Contact about your block at ES -- and then you opened a further dialogue about it on your test wiki. In the future, let's do one or the other, please. You may not have realised it, but you're really just creating double the paperwork for Lucho!

And you make it a little worse when he does respond to you. You decide to argue the points he's made by saying, "I don't believe [my edits] to be 'block-worthy'", and go on to claim that your contributions were beneficial to the community and staff. And then you sign off with "awaiting your response". The tone just ... isn't right.

Again, blocks from CCs are super rare for people trying to make helpful contributions. You can be assured that if you do get blocked, your edits are block-worthy. Do you have the right to ask for further clarification? Yes, of course. It's important you learn from your mistakes. But better form at Fandom is to ask once and then let it go. You don't ask twice, get a response, and then choose to argue that response. That's only gonna make people raise an eyebrow in your general direction. :)

Here's a handy guide to being blocked that'll give you an idea of good form while blocked.

Now, of course, it's important for me to point out that you haven't damaged your reputation irreparably. Clearly, I'm still on your side, cause I'm taking the time to write out another multi-paragraph bit of advice. And I know for a stone-cold fact that you can be one of our very best contributors.

'But you've gotta start now''.

My boss is not gonna let me continue to spend this kinda time with you if you don't start using phrases like, "I'm sorry; I'll try to do better next time," and "Hey, I can see I made a mess. Can I clean it up for you?"

So, let's please return to the assignments I gave you a bit ago. Let's figure out that next NL help page translation, and get the ES and DE translations of the Mercury FAQ up. Then we can start building your reputation as a localisation collaborator! 